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Letters. We Get Letters.

You're always welcome to craft your clever little missives and shoot 'em our way here at the penthouse suite of the Microsoft Eradication Society Tower in not-quite-lovely Parlin, New Jersey. We may take up to seven or eight months to reply; perhaps we'll never reply. And if you do choose to write us -- and incidentally, our e-mail address is webmaster@ms-eradication.org -- bear in mind that your e-mail may be used on this site.

That said, here's a little peek into our inbox, with the newest e-mails at the top. As a courtesy, we don't post the e-mail addresses of people who write us . . . unless you're just an asshole, in which case we gladly post it for shits and giggles.


From: "SDM"
Subject: My introduction.
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:04:42 EST


hey, i randomly found this site and i got a funny little graphics idea.

what do you think?

Killing Bill GATES.


Response:
It looks awesome. We hope we get more promotion material like yours :-)


From: Hexriff
Subject: About IP logging and registration.
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 04:29:25 EST


Dear friends(?) at fms.com:

considering that you have provided considerable support for attacking the personal information logging inherent to Microsoft software products, I find it especially cowardly and ironic that you participate in the overrated fad of enforcing mandatory registration just to post messages. This is in direct conflict with the principles you claim to uphold. Registration is merely another form of personal data logging. If I am so wrong, why do you also insist upon loggin IP addresses?

I wouldn't be surprised if this site was legally owned and set-up by Microsoft or a subsidiary, specifically for tracking the thoughts and online behaviors of those of us who do, in fact, strongly dislike Microsoft business practices, software, and coercive presence in the fields of computer science and information theory.

Shame on you.

If your system administrator/webmaster has any true dedication to the surface meaning of this site, then you will abolish both IP logging and required registration.

Only a few short years ago, neither was common practice anywhere on the wwweb.

If you refuse to comply with this request, consequences will be suffered. This is not a threat, but a curse and a prediction.


Response:
Wow, you're an angry fellow!

First of all, we didn't initially require registration to post on the forums. But there were just too many dumbasses posting worthless messages -- and we don't mean "messages we don't agree with," but rather, messages that were just utter wastes (childish name-calling, messages totally unrelated to the subject at hand, and the like). And hell, it's not like you can't just give fake information when you register.

You give us way too much credit if you think we actually look at anyone's registration information. As unorganized, short on time, and basically scatterbrained as this organization is, alas, we can only dream of having the time to do such a thing or the skills to do anything sinister with the information.

And we don't "insist" on logging IP addresses on the forums; it's built into the Ultimate Bulletin Board (UBB) software we use. And again, we don't actually use that information.

Is this site just a front for Microsoft? Well, there are some rather easy, freely available tools on the Internet which will allow you to find out who exactly this site is registered to, where it's hosted, and so on. You'll easily find by using these tools that your fears are just a trifle unfounded.

Now, it could be that your friendly webmaster is employed by a company that's a rather visible opponent of Microsoft's. (We'll know within a week or two; wish me luck.) But this site is little more than a personal project, and doesn't represent the views of any potential employers. (Not on the record, anyway.)

In any event, we'll see what we can do about the required registration (perhaps we'll try turning it off again and hope for the best) and the IP logging (maybe it can be turned off without too much bloodletting). In the meantime, thanks for the feedback, good sir. And try and calm down some, eh?


From: [ Name Withheld by Request ]
Subject: I'm sure you've heard this before...
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:10:49 -0800 (PST)


Alright, I'm sure you've heard this before, but though I've had minimal hands-on experience with other OS's, I am pleased with Windows for the most part. I've always had at least one friend who's been a Mac fanatic, and my brother's major has a habit of shifting every two years or so, but in four years in which he was a computer engineer to be and a nuclear engineer to be (which he is now again), he operated several OS's, the one he still uses being Linux, but he's always kept his Windows installation for the same reason I've kept mine:

I like to play games

I like the variety of software that's out there for the PC

Dealing with existant, mass produced drivers is hard enough at times, and I don't like the possible non-existence of drivers and tech support to be a part of my trouble shooting process

There's a few other reasons, but most of them come from me being set in my ways, and I'd be willing to cast them aside if something promising enough were to come along. But what I wanted to say is that I think it's misleading to scare people into using a system that ulimately won't do what they want, won't play the games they like, won't do this, or that. Windows XP does what people want in the end. My computer, like the average person's, is an over-inflated nintendo e-mail jukebox that let's me edit videos and music easily when it's in the right mood. How many people understand that they can pull 400 meg per second off of firewire, and would actually make use of it? Not many more than would gladly buy that kind of specialty (and I know your point is that it shouldn't be "specialty") hardware, I say. Even when I explain to people that I want firewire or something other than IDE connected cd-roms so my system doesn't slow to a halt while I'm installing programs or making cd's, they just say "it only takes 5 minutes, anyway."

Your average Joe isn't going to drive around or wish they were driving around blasting "who let the dogs out" or Britney Spears and then go home and fight the fell software tyranny which is Microsoft. I know this may sound ridiculous, but at least Microsoft doesn't make soda and potato chips, like Sony or your other all-encompassing Asian conglomerates do (yes, there really are sony potato chips.) I feel that as Microsoft gets bigger, they get sloppier, and there's money to be made by cleaning up the mess, which composes somewhere around 15% of the market now from what I hear. If the mess gets too big, microsoft will slip and fall, which is the nature of capitalism. As the market grows, though, I would guess that that percentage will stay around there, and the underdogs will get stronger as they eat more and more of the table scraps. Maybe they'll get good enough to change my mind.

Maybe it's spooky that Microsoft can read your e-mail, but do you really think that Apple is going to inhibit an NSA inquiry? When I write what shouldn't be written, I don't do it anywhere near my house, and I still wouldn't if I thought that my computer were safe. I actually work for the AIA, which serves under the NSA, and is kind of part of it, and kind of not. I worry about things in the vicinity of Korea, but it's quite possible that I'll be working at the NSA headquarters within a year or so, and from what I've seen, the structure is more like the headless blunder idea in the movie 'Cube.' If you haven't seen the movie, the idea is that there's no one, concerted motive, it's just a bunch of people doing their jobs, and the awful things that happen are the result of apathy most of the time. There's probably someone out there who reads through your emails when they shouldn't, but it's probably some bored paper pusher looking for something to snicker at, and who would probably lose his job if he got caught.

So fuck microsoft, and fuck the fact that I use windows because I want my games and mindless ease of use, but also fuck every other OS out there that complains about not selling well when they refuse to give the people what they want. Also, if you have a real solution, let me know. I would genuinely like to do things better. Thanks in advance, and it's right to let people know what's going on, though I just wish there were more substance on your website about what the average person should do. How can I play my games, how can I transfer my files from an NTFS format drive to a new OS? How can I do this and that? The list of programs I've never heard of just isn't enough for me.

thanks-

Dave

p.s., please don't list my email address, and this letter is not indicative of the opinions of any government agency whatsoever.

p.s.s., the opinions or actions of any particular government agency are not necessarily indicative of my viewpoints, either


Response:
I'm not sure I'm very swayed by the "well, it all sucks, but if it wasn't Microsoft shafting us, it'd be someone else" argument.

Now, you say one of the reasons you choose to stick with what you have is the availability of games. I'm not a big gaming person, so this really isn't an issue for me. But I have to wonder what it says about an operating system if one of the best arguments its boosters can give for it is that there are a lot more games available for it. Just stop for a second and think about that. Aren't you at least a little bit embarrassed? If you're really serious about gaming, buy a console. It'll be a lot cheaper, it's actually designed for the purpose of gaming, and it'll offer you even more choices.

And while there may be a lot of software for Windows, exactly how much of it are you planning to use? Not just today, but in your entire lifetime? Really. How much? And how much of it do you really think is unavailable on other platforms? Can you confidently say you did your homework to find out whether the titles you use are, in fact, unavailable elsewhere?

These are such weak little arguments.

It's true that most people do seem to just settle for "good enough." This may, in fact, be the single best proof of the fact that Microsoft is a monopoly: The public treats it like one, because it's accepted that it is one. Think of Microsoft as a traditional monopoly -- the phone company or the cable company, for instance. Most people can readily come up with complaints about both of the above, and yet, they resign themselves to the fact that there's no choice but to go with whatever company serves their area. They're of the belief that it's a waste of time to speculate on how these companies could serve them better, because the fact is, they won't.

And for some odd reason, people have come to view Microsoft in much the same way. They've come to accept that there isn't a better way, that there's no alternative, and that Microsoft is just what they'll have to put up with. The difference here is that this isn't even true. But Microsoft has succeeded in making the average person think it is, and that they have as little control over what's on their computer as they do over who sends them their cable bill every month.

Sure, maybe Apple or any other company would start to give personal information away if compelled to by a government agency. But you're neglecting a key point: Nobody is compelling Microsoft to chip away at people's privacy, and yet, they're doing it. One can only speculate how gleefully compliant they'd be if the government came knocking. (Of course, numerous conspiracy theories suggest they already have.)

If you'd like to chat with some of the other site visitors about transitioning to another operating system, there are always plenty of threads on this very subject in our forums.

You know, I sure hope my taxes aren't paying your salary. If so, Canada's looking more appealing than ever.


From: "Ben Brown" <ben@eboredom.net>
Subject: Feedback
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:52:04 -0700


Here's this clown's first e-mail. The quote below is taken from elsewhere on these feedback pages.
Working in marketing is nothing to be proud of. Being successful at marketing is an even greater crime against humanity.
Oh, right, and apple never works in marketing. Their company bases its success solely on it's products alone.

Whatever.

-ben brown
Super Hero, Planet Earth
ben@eboredom.net
http://www.eboredom.net


And here's his second e-mail, sent just minutes later:

For a second I thought you site was one of the only anti-Microsoft sites that had class.

And then I read the email section.

-ben brown
Super Hero, Planet Earth
ben@eboredom.net
http://www.eboredom.net


Response:
How apt, then, that you're in said "email section!"

For one thing, when I made that remark about marketing, you'll note that I was addressing the writer of that e-mail specifically. Suggesting that I was making a comment against people in that profession, not any company that markets itself, which seems to be the definition you thought I was going for. Of course there are marketing people at Apple. And I imagine that I wouldn't exactly be best friends with them, because ultimately, they're still marketing scum.

But I think you know who leans far more heavily on marketing: Microsoft. They have to advertise far and away more than Apple. You'd be even more of a fool than you already are to try and deny this. And I contend that they have to fudge the truth, blur reality, and outright lie a whole lot more in their marketing than most other companies.

Sorry if I hit a little too close to home by suggesting that the thing you've devoted your living to is one of the most useless professions in history. But hey, someone had to say it.


From: "Guy Martin"
Subject: you don't need to respond ...
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:36:08 -0500


I enjoyed learning about the history and nature of the Web site. :)

Nobody seems to agree with me but, my argument with MS is that they own the document standard. Why is that a problem? Because they can change it on a whim when any competition comes along. The competition's product immediately becomes deprecated. So, who wants to compete?

Documents are to programs like gasoline is to automobiles. An automobile is useless without gasoline just like a program is useless without the document. Imagine if Ford could change the formulation of gasoline every time they come out with a new fleet of cars rendering all other vehicles useless. Or, if Sony could change the signal characteristics of the radio wave so that only their new TVs could properly decipher it rendering all other TVs useless.

This is the pattern MS has been following for years. As my two examples show, standards help keep competition alive and there are many more examples like that.

So, how do we get out of the rut we've gotten into of allowing MS to dictate the document standard? How do we create a standard that all businesses will adopt regardless of what MS says. It can be done but, it would take an act of congress. However, if congress is holding MS stock, it's not going to happen. :(

-g


Response:
This e-mail is a great contribution to the "Reasons Why Microsoft Is Bad" file. A lot of our site visitors point out that one of our weaknesses is the lack of a section for less technically inclined people, where they can educate themselves on exactly why Microsoft is bad. One of these days, we'll try and expand this site to include that content. But in the meantime, let the above explanation serve as a reminder of one of the many reasons.


From: Adam W
Subject: Just a little tidbit
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:11:17 -0800 (PST)


Hello,

Personally, I am a Windows2k user, and I find it more than adequate for what I use my computer for. Specifically, gaming. I guess I am relatively more computer-literate than most every-day, check e-mail, chat kind of Joe-schmoes, but I am no god(such as the Riddler). I choose to use W2k for what I deem most MS users want: software compatibility. Now, I have read that OS X is a very good operating system, and seeing as how I do not have any experience with it, I'll take your word for it. However, it seems to me that it just doesn't have the amount of available software that I want (this I have also heard). I do have good friends that use various versions of Unix, and know that they would not go back to Windows if it was the end of the world. But it is very much more evident that there is not the compatibility with the software I want to use. So, I'm going to stick with W2k, as I really don't have any relevant problems with it.

On another note, it is quite obvious that MS products have been under the highest scrutiny by the most-qualified people. I will not argue that this is not a good thing. However, it seems a bit more difficult to find the same amount of attention being paid to other operating systems. Please correct me if I'm wrong in saying that nobody has really closely looked at the other operating systems.

My point: maybe other OS companies are committing the same crimes, but because everyone is focused on destroying MS, they are sheltered from this. Could it be that while everyone is scrutinizing MS, the executives of other companies have smirks of delight on their faces because they know that their empire is growing with the same naive users that MS started with?

Prove to me that alternative OS makers are not committing the same crimes, and you will have much more respect from me.


Response:
Well, lookie here -- yet another Windows user who says they use their computer mainly for gaming. Again, I must ask: Why not just end the stupid charade, and buy an actual game console already?

I don't get a very strong sense of confidence in your sources of information from your e-mail. Somehow, "this I have also heard" doesn't strike this writer as very authoritative. Unless you're using some very specialized, industry-specific, esoteric piece of software, the chances are overwhelmingly in favor of you being able to find whatever software you need for OS X. It'll run UNIX software, Mac OS software, and -- if you want to count Virtual PC -- Windows software as well.

There are plenty of people who scrutinize other operating systems for privacy violations as well. The reason you don't hear as much about privacy issues there is very simple: No other operating system vendor is as hostile to consumer privacy as Microsoft! Linux, FreeBSD, Darwin (the core of Mac OS X), and others are totally open-source, so anyone with an eye for code can comb the source code and prove that these operating systems aren't giving away users' private information. Even with closed-source operating systems, a clueful individual can analyze network traffic to see if any personal information is being sent out. And it's done all the time.

And the plain, simple fact of the matter is that, even with all the scrutiny other operating systems get, there have been drastically less instances of liberties being taken with consumer privacy with these other operating systems. Why? Well, maybe because other companies actually think that human beings are worthy of a little respect.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm compelled to prove anything to you. Ultimately, we're not getting a penny from any company to win converts to non-Microsoft systems, nor do we lose anything if more people waste their computers on Microsoft. You see, unlike your heroes in Redmond, we're not here to try and push you toward our "one true OS." We actually leave the decision up to you, and hope that you'll take whatever information you can get to work toward a final decision.

But ZDNet's David Coursey does a pretty decent job addressing most of your concerns in this article. He's actually paid to respond to trolls. I'm not.


From: Gene Gaines
Subject: Beautiful job
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:03:28 -0500


I'm so goddamn old (in relative computer years) that I started with computers when you programmed with wires ... remember when computer memory was vessels of mercury (kid you not) that you banged acoustic pulses into, waited a while, and "heard" your data being retrieved at the other end of the vessel -- sound does travel lots slower than electrons.

I remember IBM selling their first electronic computers when their punchcard sorters/printers often do the job faster and cheaper.

I remember when the computer world was not sure if computer logic would go tristate or bistate -- there used to be three-state vacuum tubes you see.

I remember working on the first software for a little company named "Digital Equipment Corporation", I remember working on computer simulations of the early Direct Distance Dial network for Bell Labs, I an remember the first time-sharing and remote access computers at MIT (there were others) and a neighbor of mine bring the firs real-time remote-access machine to a virtual halt because she sat at home and wrote a tight DO loop to time her roast in her oven.

So on ad nauseum. This background by way of saying why I believe Microsoft is so important -- and destroying the Microsoft dominance is so critical.

Guy, what you are doing with ms-eradication.org is very very important. If this Microsoft worst-common-denominator monopoly based on a pillage-and-rape Viking-like savage mentality is permitted to continue, I have the concern that computer science is so hindered in North America that we will lose our leadership in computing to other countries.

If this happens, Microsoft will have done more damage to our country than any government, any company, any person has ever done before.

If Gates successful with his vision of achieving dominance of access points to the Internet (hailstorm/passport/.Net etc.) then we may see 1984 Orwell's Big Brother come true.

I say again, good job, well done.

Gene Gaines


From: "Charles"
Subject: Well, it was your suggestion .....
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:29:21 -0000


Hello Me/We,

I don't quite know how I got to your website, but I'll be back again for sure. As an Old Fart who grew up with the quill pen and the abacus, I shan't be around long enough to achieve your level of expertise ... but I might say something nice about Microsoft ....

When I had my first computer, a Commodore 64, it was hard work for people with different makes of computer to communicate ... we may all have been using Basic, but like Heinz' soups it came in 57 flavours, and only the enthusiasts would take the trouble to exchange ideas across platforms.

What Microsoft has given(sold) us is software that is used world-wide, so there's a fair chance that if, for example, I send a Word document to someone in Australia they'll be able to read it, whatever flavour of Windows they may be using (or a Mac of course).

Windows may be bug-ridden bloatware, and there may be better alternatives ... but I don't meet many people who are Linux users on a day-to-day basis, for instance.

Those like me whose computing power has been improved by slow and painful stages via the PC route - easier and more affordable than the Mac route - may not have anything very worthwhile to say, but I reckon Microsoft made it easier for us to say it than it was twenty years ago. Besides, if there were no Microsoft, who could we blame ?

Charles.


From: "Rocky Rockmaker"
Subject: Feedback
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:50:23 -0800


Attributed to the Dalai Llama, from an oft circulated-by-e-mail (hence possibly, probably, most soitenly, bogus) "Rules for Living":

--- "Live a good, honourable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll be able to enjoy it a second time." ---

Moving words, simple thought, regardless of true source.

It will be quiet, crystalline moments I look back to.

The buoyant pleasure on the faces of those receiving fuckmicrosoft.com coffee mugs and beer steins from me this past holiday season.

But most, it will be today's encounter with M*cr*$*ft. Needing to enslave myself to yet another M$ product -- the 'Reader' -- I had to perform a clumsy and annoying 'activation' ritual, online, and with my e-mail address required. The magic, the wonder, of receiving a confirmation e-mail, from Bill Gate's own evil minions, that acknowledged I was now officially signed on and registered as rocky@fuckmicrosoft.com, well, this simple satisfaction, this elegant symbol, counters for a moment and always, the hours, days, months subjugated by the Redmond virus. The struggle will be forever, but so will this memory. Thank you for creating and sharing this site and it's e-mail branding.

rocky


From: "Brandon Driesen"
Subject: Feedback
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 02:14:05 +1100


Excellent work. It is people like you that will keep MS and any other big vendors honest. I am a MCSE with extensive programming skills in Microsoft's Web Technologies and yet I am looking at the other side of the pasture to broaden my horizons so to speak: Apache, PHP, JSP, Java Servlets. I like your contrary ideas of Microsoft.

Me, I'll not touch .NET until MS can offer a stable and secure product which is as good as asking for rain every day in the Sahara Desert. Keep up the good work. Oh, by the way, like your web site's look and feel. Looks so much like MS.com LOL!

Regards,
Brandon Driesen


From: Michal Wirski
Subject: feedback
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:38:40 -0800 (PST)


I was browsing through you forums.

I had noticed a few people give the impression that they thing Linux is not the best solution for desktop computing.

I strongly disagree.

I use Linux Redhat 7.1 and also Mandrake 7.2 and I am extremely satisfied with the performance of both. I would like to point out, when I installed Redhat Linux, it came with just about everything I needed or wanted, from KDE's office suite, to IRC, ftp clients, GIMP(GNU IMAGE MANIPULATION PROGRAM) to development tools such as Kdevelop and just about every programming language someone needs, such as NASM, C++, Python, Perl and more.

Redhat other distros that I used come with so many deskop applications its unbelievable. Whats more, Redhat installed itself in about 20 minutes with everything, and it hasnt fucked up on me.

What does windows come with, and how much money and time would it take to install all the stuff on a windows machine that Redhat hat comes, ask yourself that ?

Also I have more then one computer in the house, and I get my internet from my university, however, because of the way my university sets itself up as an ISP and the configuration they make you use, they dont allow home internet sharing and they restrict internet access. Windows, along with commercial proxys for windows could not enable the sharing of my university internet account.

Yet linux allowed me to share the internet connection and continues to do so, and whats more I use it as a server, and I can shut down the GUI any time I want for better performance.

Also I would like to point out that Linux is very low in price compared to some other systems, so really theres no excuse for getting Linux or even Free BSD. I know for a fact one shop near me is selling Redhat for $10, yes thats right $10. So to anyone that thinks they cant afford it, have a proper look, get a Linux distro and start using it, then borrow a Linux book from a library and read it. You will be suprised at how much you will learn and what you can do.


From: "Anonymous User"
Subject: Feedback
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 02:06:47 +1300


Hey there people.

Must say, wonderful site. Being a web developer myself, I wonder why I didn't think of it before (considering my intense hatred of fucking Microshit Word and Office and stuff.) Recently, while wandering around the web, I found an interesting comment about Windows XP and it's so- called "Application Compatibility" feature. Read this bit below:

"How do you make something emulate Win 9x? By taking a working OS and switching on two thousand bugs? I wonder if XP in that case also comes with a built-in function that will give you those nice 9x super- crashes... Well, why not? If it's supposed to correctly emulate those OS's, it'd have to be just as unstable too, don't you think?"

Note that the person who wrote that (no, not me) has called Windows XP a "working OS"? Yeah, whatever. Windows XP is the ONLY operating system in the world to lock you out of certain features of your own computer! (All the Win2k users out there should remember the "Logical Disk Manager") Yes, thats right, you can't partition disks on XP because "you aren't Microsoft."

And are they trying to say that Windows NT is actually STABLE? I'm sure people out there remember such wonderful programs as the ones that tell you what files are open on your disk (isn't that built into Linux?) - well, upon running one of those, it managed to collapse the kernel. Yeah, KMODE exception not handled. Now, tell me. Why the hell don't they TRY to recover from exceptions? I think Linux tries to, and I know of Mac OS trying to ignore a few (ah, MacsBug) but Windows? Whatever. There was an error because the program wasn't made by Microsoft. That would be it.

Did Nostradamus mention Microsoft in his prophecies? I'm sure it's in there somewhere, "...and the Beast shall rise from the land in the West, and it shall conquer the world, and no stronghold will withstand it's power..."

And above and beyond that, did someone else in your feedback mention Internet Explorer 6? 3,4,5,6, whats the difference anyway? All they do is get bigger and slower and support even less open source alternative things. Oh yeah, your feedback pages, if you click "Page 1" you get a 404 error message with a "Additionally, a 404 error was encountered trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request." By the way, what is RedApache? I use Apache but that one's a mystery.

Are you sure someone has registered fucklinux.com? Everytime I try to open it (to see what it is of course :) I get a cannot find server. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft IE automatically uses a - you guessed it - Microsoft search engine to try and cross reference the page you couldn't open? And then you get those ten year loading time "Cannot find server" pages? That and Microsoft IE is the only browser to just mysteriously wipe out browser windows when you attempt to change page like it just did to one of mine - fuck it.

I tell you, the most invaluable programs on Windows is - surprise, surprise - Norton Crashguard. Oh, and I can't work out why people defend Microsoft saying that "Windows may be rip-off of macos but macos is ripoff of xerox" because Mac OS looks more to me like Risc OS (which, incidentally, I liked) I also found out that DOS is a total ripoff of - was it QDOS? which M$ paid shit all for.

By the way - I'm also a member of that group you fear so much - I like amigas. Yeah, thats right - amigas. And, get this - I would really like to use an ACORN. Fuck Windows, lets all use ACORNS. Ten fucking thousand times faster than Windows, though the advantage was the RISC processor, really. Even if it was a few MHz, I do know that it is impossible to cross-compare CISC chips with RISC chips, or Pentium 4s.

I also happen to run Mac OS 7.5.5 on my Pentium 166 with 48mb of ram. Work that one out! Whatever that bastard before said about "powermacs...run win95...switch when I want to use real OS", personally, I prefer to either boot up MacOS, or boot up Amiga Workbench when I want a real OS. Then, sometimes I fire up BASH. I would really like to run a Linux distro on my machine, but then I'd have to relearn ASP because Apache has a differnent implementation. I do happen to have a TurboLinux CD around here somewhere. Probably under the Windows XP (which I DO NOT USE) CD on my desk. Perhaps you should add TurboLinux to your list of Commercial M$ alternatives. By the way, BE went out of business, you can't get BeOS anymore. You might want to remove it. RIP BeOS.

Well, I suppose I have rambled on a bit, and has anyone else noticed that the second someone happens to implememnt Microsoft .NET passport (MSN Messenger) support into their applications, Microsoft change the specs again? Perhaps you should include a list of alternatives to Microsoft's Messenger as well. I know of two, so far Trillian (www.trillian.cc) and Jabber (www.jabber.org) - Jabber being to ONLY way (I think) to use MSN Messenger services under Linux/Unix.

Rambled on a bit? Ah well. I could go on for even longer bitching about Macrosoft (Get it, Macrosoft? Bloody fucking BLOATWARE manufacturers), but I realise now that all you people and your other readers could do it for me. Saves my time, doŽsn't it.

By the way: I discourage the use of Visual Basic as it tries to make people believe that the only way to have programs should be with twenty- fucking-gig runtime libraries, and with Microsoft plastered over the inside.

And a note to all you Hotmail users out there: READ THE TERMS OF SERVICE!!! Did you know that they own your emails? They can sell your emails? They can publish them without your permission? You relinquish all ownership of ANYTHING you email the second it hits a Hotmail server? I'm not sure if they changed it yet, everyone really went up in arms about it, but it used to be ther, you know...

Well, that's all you'll hear from me...

Nobody
Unnamed Company

PS: I have defeated the purpose of putting unnamed company here, because the server appends it to the end anyway, and I cant be bothered disabling it. Oh, and there is software out there that there isn't twenty-seven thousand different forms of: DNS servers. BIND and BIND ports are your only option. (Note. BIND is a UNIX app)

Ah well, this should be the end... I will click send now...




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